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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_1
May 1
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Spanish people of Syrian-Assyrian descent
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Just like with the Argentinian Assyrian category, only one person included and they are not from the country of Syria Surayeproject3 (talk) 20:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1964
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1964 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1966 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1972 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1977 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1982 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1985 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1986 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1987 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1988 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1989 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1991 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1992 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1996 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1997 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2009 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2013 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2014 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2015 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2016 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2018 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2019 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 2021 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. Sometime between the initiation and closure of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Category:Energy infrastructure closed in 1975, the creator of those two deleted categories did start trying to expand that scheme with several other similar categories for other years -- but even though the nomination (and the sole delete vote) were both predicated mainly on the lack of categories for other years, nobody noticed the creation of these other categories in time to reevaluate their position.
To be fair, these are all still small categories for just one or two things each, and the schema is still quite scattershot (i.e. some years but not others), so it's still not a given that they're needed -- but we do have to revisit it regardless, since the original discussion hinged on the 1975 category being a standalone isolate at the time of nomination, which it wasn't anymore at time of closure.
So do we want to overturn the prior result and recreate those two categories on the grounds that the tree was expanded, or is this still unnecessary if all of the categories are still so small? Bearcat (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- They may be merged to decades. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:West Bengal Bharatiya Janata Party politician stubs
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category, with no evidence of approval by Wikiproject Stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim -- the minimum bar for the creation of a stub category is 60 articles, so stub categories have to be proposed to the Wikiproject for approval. But there are just 22 articles here, and absolutely no evidence that the creator followed the proper process.
It's worth noting that the stub template has already existed since 2020, and was filing its entries in the target Category:Bharatiya Janata Party politician stubs until being modified in the past week to use this category instead -- and while some Indian states do have their own state-level subcategories of that, they're all over the 60 bar, and many more Indian states don't have their own state-level subcategories of the parent.
To be fair, the undifferentiated {{BJP-politician-stub}} is still on enough people that I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody can find evidence that at least 38 of them can be transferred here to get it over the bar -- but 22 articles isn't enough to warrant a dedicated subcategory here. Bearcat (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Shearling (band) albums
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Band albums category created solely to hold a single redirect that doesn't even actually lead to a standalone article about the band that recorded this album, but to a subsection in an article about the predecessor band that the band members were in before forming the band that recorded this album. And further, the album was just released today, so while it may attain sufficient notability in the future to pass WP:NALBUMS, that isn't already a foregone conclusion yet as of right now.
Redirects can be categorized where appropriate and useful, but there's no rule that redirects always have to have categories on them the same way that articles do, so we don't automatically need this just because the redirect exists either.
So no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when the album or the band actually pass WP:NMUSIC, but we don't need this just to hold a single redirect to an ancestor band. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Stagedoor Manor alumni
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category for alumni of a youth summer camp. As always, we categorize people by their defining characteristics, not by every possible fact about their lives -- but these people are notable as actors, singers or filmmakers, not as alumni of a youth arts training program per se. Bearcat (talk) 15:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Constantinos Christoforou songs
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only two known entries, both of which are redirects, making this category effectively redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Songs with music by Levent Çoker
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only two known entries, both of which are redirects, making this category effectively redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Edin-Ådahl songs
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only one known entry (which is itself a redirect), making this category essentially redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:19, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Blond (band) songs
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only one known article (which is itself a redirect at present), making this category redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Former counties of Scania
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Two articles and there are no other Former counties of (province of Sweden). The two articles may be merged to Category:History of Scania but are properly categorised in its parent Category:History of Skåne County. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Tourist attractions in Scania
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The only entry here is Category:Castles in Skåne County. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations templates vs. Category:ASEAN templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: No idea which cat name should be better, but aren't both having same navigation purposes? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:French addiction physicians
[edit]- Propose merging Category:French addiction physicians to Category:Addiction physicians
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with Category:French physicians.
Also nominating for merge:
- Category:Kyrgyzstani addiction physicians with Category:Addiction physicians and Category:Kyrgyzstani physicians
- Category:Norwegian addiction physicians to Category:Addiction physicians and Category:Norwegian physicians. LibStar (talk) 06:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Nazi German Gulag detainees
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Nazi German Gulag detainees to Category:German Gulag detainees
- Nominator's rationale: narrow category at the intersection of political orientation, nationality, and prison location SMasonGarrison 03:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing to do with political orientation, only nationality. Wikipedia say: Nazi Germany "was the German state between 1933 and 1945". --Altenmann >talk 05:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Works set in American cities
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Works set in Mobile, Alabama to Category:Culture of Mobile, Alabama
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Flagstaff, Arizona to Category:Flagstaff, Arizona
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Fayetteville, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Fayetteville, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Fort Smith, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Fort Smith, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Little Rock, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Little Rock, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in West Memphis, Arkansas to Category:Culture of West Memphis, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Cupertino, California to Category:Cupertino, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Irvine, California to Category:Culture of Irvine, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Long Beach, California to Category:Culture of Long Beach, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Palo Alto, California to Category:Palo Alto, California
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: These categories were not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments we should be all set to merge :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support trivial redundant layer. --Altenmann >talk 08:38, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Works by Deobandis
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Works by Deobandis to Category:Works by Deobandi writers
- Nominator's rationale: Corresponding to the naming format used for subcats within sibling Category:Works by writer nationality. – Fayenatic London 19:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, Actually, not all Deobandis are writers. Some were teachers whose teachings were later published in written form—sometimes without their knowledge. Some were muftis who issued rulings that were later compiled and published.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 20:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- If they have not written it themselves then Category:Works by Deobandis is an equally wrong category name. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you explain why in detail?–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 22:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Because then it is not the work of the Deobandi. But I wonder, is this a real argument or a hypothetical argument? Does this category really contain some works that weren't written by Deobandis? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Let me explain. "Deobandi" refers to a school of thought within Sunni Islam, and "Deobandis" are its followers. For example, Anwar Shah Kashmiri is a well-known Deobandi scholar who served as the chief Hadith teacher at Darul Uloom Deoband for many years. Although he was a distinguished scholar, he had no interest in writing. One of his students published Al-Arf al-Shadhi, a compilation of Anwar Shah Kashmiri's teachings on Sunan al-Tirmidhi. Later, another student of his published Maarif al-Sunan, which also compiled his teachings on the same subject. Maarif al-Sunan argued that Al-Arf al-Shadhi contradicted Anwar Shah Kashmiri's original teachings. In this case, both books can be considered works of Anwar Shah Kashmiri, as they are compilations of his teachings, even though he did not write them himself.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 00:13, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, so that means that Category:Books by Anwar Shah Kashmiri is a wrong name too, it should be Category:Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri's teachings or Category:Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri in short. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you explain why in detail?–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 22:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, Actually, not all Deobandis are writers. Some were teachers whose teachings were later published in written form—sometimes without their knowledge. Some were muftis who issued rulings that were later compiled and published.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 20:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in detail, not all Deobandis are writers; they belong to various domains, a point Marcocapelle acknowledged. He suggested changing the category "Books by Anwar Shah Kashmiri" to "Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri's teachings" or "Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri." However, I disagree with this suggestion, as such categories are misleading. Books are not always written by the author themselves; sometimes, they are compiled from oral teachings or lectures. In this case, the books were compiled by students from Anwar Shah Kashmiri's lectures, and while he didn’t write them directly, the authorship is still attributed to him through his teachings. The students are merely compilers.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 21:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Equity Media Holdings
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Defunct company; stations have been sold Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: Closure of a business is irrelevant to the category's continued usefulness in relation to that company. - Davidships (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Davidships's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)- Oppose: invalid reason. --Altenmann >talk 08:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hydro-Tasmania power development schemes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: C2D with Hydro Tasmania Ahaohahg (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahaohahg: shouldn't it become Category:Hydro Tasmania power development schemes (with "power")? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hydro Tasmania develops only power, so the word is redundant, but if it also happen to manufacture fishing rods, we will already have a category for this :-) --Altenmann >talk 08:42, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support , mathces the name of the business. --Altenmann >talk 08:42, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:People of the Hydro-Electric Commission of Tasmania
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: C2D with Hydro Tasmania Ahaohahg (talk) 01:28, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just move the article about the book to Category:Hydro Tasmania. It is not a defining characteristic of the other two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I guess you meant Category:Hydro Tasmania. --Altenmann >talk 08:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed that. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahaohahg: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- I guess you meant Category:Hydro Tasmania. --Altenmann >talk 08:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- upmerge/Delete :underpopulated. --Altenmann >talk 08:45, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Executed Jack the Ripper suspects
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted per G7. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this intersection is defining. It seems to capture an extremely narrow intersection of suspects, cause of death, and the specific crime. SMasonGarrison 02:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Intentional communities
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Intentional communities to Category:Intentional community
- Nominator's rationale: Topic category names are supposed to be singular. Fractaloid (talk) 02:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't believe the nominating rationale is the case, or makes sense. CeltBrowne (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @CeltBrowne: WP:TOPICCAT is clear that topic categories are supposed to be singular.This category has been tagged as such since early 2024. But this looks like a set-and-topic category. I'd remove the {{topic category}} banner and not rename, but if there is not consensus to remove the {{topic category}}, rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- The nominating rationale seems to be accurate. I can’t speak to whether it makes sense or not. Fractaloid (talk) 02:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't believe the nominating rationale is the case, or makes sense. CeltBrowne (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just remove the topic category banner, that will solve the problem in a more accurate manner. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Of course it is not a topic category: it is not about intricacies of the notion intentional community, but categorizes things known as international communities. By the way, as such, does it need {{Set category}} banner? --Altenmann >talk 05:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- That wouldn't be needed either. There are quite a few topic articles in this category and that is fine. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Of course it is not a topic category: it is not about intricacies of the notion intentional community, but categorizes things known as international communities. By the way, as such, does it need {{Set category}} banner? --Altenmann >talk 05:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)